trailrider
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Appreciate the information for when I run my North Coast Limited!
I've got the Hallmark set from umm 1987 or so. What a mess they are. I've also got a couple of the Detail Associates cars, but I was so glad for the coming of the Walther's set. Other than the 6" truck wheel base issue I've found them superb. Did you make the mail container yourself? This is one of the projects pretty high on my priority list, however I was going to use it on the Chief, Grand Canyon, and San Francisco Chief. I was unaware they used the containers on the El Cap.The El Capitan (Not the Walthers version)
I've got the Hallmark set from umm 1987 or so. What a mess they are. I've also got a couple of the Detail Associates cars, but I was so glad for the coming of the Walther's set. Other than the 6" truck wheel base issue I've found them superb. Did you make the mail container yourself? This is one of the projects pretty high on my priority list, however I was going to use it on the Chief, Grand Canyon, and San Francisco Chief. I was unaware they used the containers on the El Cap.
I would really love to get a heavyweight Chief. That is one I've not even started researching yet. All my heavyweight equipment is currently limited to what was run in the California Limited. I know much of the non-head end equipment back then was direct from the Pullman catalog, but I don't know which might be applicable to a Chief. I'm doing the California Limited because of the variety of head end cars esp the fairly unique "horse car".My personal Santa Fe equipment is limited to the original Walthers Super Chief, a heavyweight Super Chief, and some misc. head end equipment and heavyweight coaches.
Yeah, I asked the Broadway Limited representative a the train show last month if they were planning on making any of the cars to go with the E1s. The answer was, no. I also asked what the difference was between the pre and post war versions. He did not know. So I this point I am assuming the difference is number boards on the nose. Do you know?I Now that BLI is giving us E-1's I'll be ordering a pre war set.
Yeah, I asked the Broadway Limited representative a the train show last month if they were planning on making any of the cars to go with the E1s. The answer was, no. I also asked what the difference was between the pre and post war versions. He did not know. So I this point I am assuming the difference is number boards on the nose. Do you know?
Looking through a few reference books today, looks like I'll be ordering the #5L and the #2LA set. The #5 will be for the first El Capitan, while the #2 will get a 1938 streamlined Super. So looks like prewar versions for me too, regardless of what the difference is. I've already got piles of E6s for post war trains.Now that BLI is giving us E-1's I'll be ordering a pre war set.
I believe the main difference in the pre-war version is the color. I read somewhere, (I think the Sante Fe Yahoo group) that the pre-war warbonnet red was more on the orange side.
BTW Sherrel, it isn't uncommon for the guy in the booth at the show to know be an expert on every new project. They are mostly sales guys, not prototype experts, so give'em a break! The manufacturer does know however:
http://www.broadway-limited.com/paragon3emce1.aspx
Yeah, Alan, I think you meant to say that "he" is NOT an expert.
Does say that the first one shown is the RED-ORANGE color as being pre war,
I was just blowing off some steam .. sorry!
Yes the first one was a southwest sunset red, but that only lasted a short while. There are still true warbonnet red prewar versions. So that is not the difference between pre-war vs. post war versions only a variation of the pre-war. I've been looking at a lot of photos in all my books lately. I still can't see any difference other than the letter boards. I've actually found 3 different letter board configurations - the last one (time wise) is a monstrosity. Plus I now I am wondering if they are going to include a war time "hood" for the headlamp.Does say that the first one shown is the RED-ORANGE color as being pre war!