chadbag
Well-Known Member
Willie, I'm disappointed, believing a widely debunked conspiracy theory?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/23/fact-checking-trumps-latest-claims-biden-ukraine/
Post the video. Otherwise I'll assume you mean when he said he would hold up the funding to Ukraine until they dismissed the former prosecutor Viktor Shokin who was Putin's stooge from the previous Ukrainian administration that is now in asylum in Russia. Viktor Shokin prosecuted no one. Therefore if Biden's son had done anything wrong, removing Shokin would have been detrimental to Biden and his son. Check the records.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/world/europe/ukraine-prosecutor-trump.html
Not to mention the entire western alliance was also backing the United States in asking for the removal of the prosecutor who prosecuted no one. Viktor Shokin was largely responsible for the corruption in Ukraine, by turning a blind eye to it.
Check your facts and or your sources. If Fox and is your only outlet, watch Sheppard Smith, not Sean Hannity. Keep in mind; the only reason Fox "News" has not been sued for liable is their name is actually "Fox News and Entertainment", I hope you enjoy the show.
I try to avoid the politics in online forums (that are not political forums) but I did want to point out something: There are, however, signed statements, under penalty of perjury, that contradict the narrative that this prosecutor was not investigating anything. And it is all immaterial anyway whether he was being investigated -- what was Hunter Biden doing getting $50k a month to sit on a board of a company whose business he has no expertise in in a country he has no expertise in, and whose fatehr, at the time, was VP of the USA? And what about Hunter Biden's big China deals with companies that were under suspicion of espionage or related? Where there is smoke, there is fire, and there is a ton of smoke around Hunter and Joe Biden and their business dealings. Yet the NYT and the WP are more interested in a fake scandal (laying out all the facts and their chronology show this is a manufactured scandal by the Democrats to try and take Trump down) concerning Trump instead of the actual corruption and scheming taking place.
Btw, the NYT and WP are biased, political rags now. They have long lost any semblance to actual journalism. Their goals, under the cover of being journalists, is to take Trump down no matter what they have to say or do. And they've said a lot which is demonstrably BS (either overtly BS, or through acts of ommission -- they list a few facts but leave out all the other facts that are uncomfortably against their narrative -- this is how they usually work -- they list the few facts which they think support them and then expound upon those facts and draw conclusions on those facts, while ignoring all the other facts that don't support them and their narrative, their claims, and conclusions)
I'd suggest that we take these discussions to somewhere dedicated to politics, as politics can get heated and cause problems for friendships and relationships. I am more interested in train pics, layout pics, model pics, and train experiences than anything about Trump or Biden or the rest.