finally thanks to all the folks that took the time to help me ( and a freind that came by) I got some pictures of the LL & A up to see on my album shawn63 thanks for all the help now if someone will tell me what you think my wifes tired of telling me it looks fine I need some input frome you guys I have a thick skin so let me know what you think thanks everyone especally trussrod who was trying to help me at midnight last night .