ModelRailroadForums.com

Go Back   ModelRailroadForums.com > The Project Room > Wiring, Electronics and DCC

RailroadForums.com - Railroad discussion forum and photo gallery

RailroadForums.com
RR Forum - Photo Gallery
Railroad Links

ModelRailroadForums.com - Model railroad discussion forum and photo gallery

ModelRailroadForums.com
Forum - Photo Gallery
Model Railroad Links

SteamPreservation.com - Steam and railway preservation discussion forum and photo gallery

SteamPreservation.Com
Forum - Photo Gallery
Tourist RR Links - Spotters Guide

Model RR Supplier Directory
Model Railroad Links

Model RR Product Reviews

RailroadBookstore.com - Railroad Books
Model Railroad Books  - Thomas & Friends


Share this on your favorite Social Network:
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-01-2012, 03:50 AM
CbarM's Avatar
CbarM CbarM is offline
HO all the way!
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Irvine, Alberta (in the South East)
Posts: 546
Send a message via MSN to CbarM Send a message via Yahoo to CbarM
Default QSI to Soundtraxx swap

Hey guys, I am swapping out a QSI decoder from an Atlas gold loco and putting in a Tsunami decoder. I have the old decoder out and I am curious which wire is the positive on the motor leads. There is a brown and orange wire. The brown one makes contact on top and the orange goes down the side and I assume it connects to a brass strip. I just want to make sure I do this right. Thanks for any input!

Also, does the leads for the trucks always go on the same side of the decoder (ex. the left side lead goes on the left side of the decoder)??
__________________
The most important part of railroading to remember..."Life is Great in Throttle 8"
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-02-2012, 02:56 PM
CbarM's Avatar
CbarM CbarM is offline
HO all the way!
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Irvine, Alberta (in the South East)
Posts: 546
Send a message via MSN to CbarM Send a message via Yahoo to CbarM
Default

Hmm...40 views n nobody knows? I figured somebody would have a lil insight to this...
__________________
The most important part of railroading to remember..."Life is Great in Throttle 8"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-02-2012, 03:40 PM
Selector's Avatar
Selector Selector is offline
Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,896
Default

Call Tony's Train Exchange and ask one of their techs. They are very knowledgeable. They'll tell you what is what.
__________________
Crandell
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-02-2012, 03:49 PM
diburning's Avatar
diburning diburning is offline
AlcoHaulic
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 3,633
Default

That's ironic. Tony's is owned by QSI.

Orange is positive. Gray is negative. QSI also uses 8-ohm speakers so you don't even need to replace the speaker.
__________________
Eric from Boston, MA. Modeling Norfolk Southern and Pan Am Railways.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-02-2012, 05:06 PM
CbarM's Avatar
CbarM CbarM is offline
HO all the way!
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Irvine, Alberta (in the South East)
Posts: 546
Send a message via MSN to CbarM Send a message via Yahoo to CbarM
Default

OK well thanks alot, I appreciate the info!!
__________________
The most important part of railroading to remember..."Life is Great in Throttle 8"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-02-2012, 08:15 PM
Mark R. Mark R. is offline
Custom Painter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 161
Default

The QSI speakers are 8 ohm and the two are wired inseries for a 16 ohm load. I replaced the two speakers with a pair of identical ones from Tony's that were 4 ohm. Wired in series for an 8 ohm load and got much better response.


Mark.
__________________
Visit My Custom Painting Site ....
Roach Custom Painting
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:04 PM
CbarM's Avatar
CbarM CbarM is offline
HO all the way!
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Irvine, Alberta (in the South East)
Posts: 546
Send a message via MSN to CbarM Send a message via Yahoo to CbarM
Default

Ohhh...OK good to know. Can I just wire them independantly direct to the board or will that give me the same effect as having them wired in series?
__________________
The most important part of railroading to remember..."Life is Great in Throttle 8"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:17 PM
Mark R. Mark R. is offline
Custom Painter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 161
Default

Wiring both both independantly directly to the board (the 8 ohm factory speakers) would be the same as wiring them in parallel which would create a 4 ohm load on the decoder, and not advisable as it puts undue stress on the audio amp output.

Tsunami decoders will work with either an 8 ohm load (optimum) or 16 ohm load.

When dealing with multiple speakers, you ADD the ohm rating of the two speakers when in series - two 8 ohm speakers in series = 16 ohm load. When wiring two speakers in parallel, the load is halved - two 8 ohm speakers in parallel = 4 ohm load.

Hense my reasoning to go with two 4 ohm speakers in series to obtain an optimum load of 8 ohms.


Mark.
__________________
Visit My Custom Painting Site ....
Roach Custom Painting
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-02-2012, 10:40 PM
CbarM's Avatar
CbarM CbarM is offline
HO all the way!
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Irvine, Alberta (in the South East)
Posts: 546
Send a message via MSN to CbarM Send a message via Yahoo to CbarM
Default

Ohhh gotchya...so for now its best to leave em how they are wired up in series. Is there much of a noticeable difference to replace em with 4 ohm speakers from Tony's?
__________________
The most important part of railroading to remember..."Life is Great in Throttle 8"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-02-2012, 11:42 PM
Mark R. Mark R. is offline
Custom Painter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 161
Default

I'd suggest wiring them up to the Tsunami and seeing (hearing) what you think. If you like what you hear, leave them be. If you feel you really need a little more "punch", try the 4 ohm version.

Sound is a very individual thing. Some folks like them proto-typically set for the scale in that they are set to sound good when you are beside them, while others want people on the other side of an auditorium to hear their engine ! If you are one of the former, the two factory speakers wired in series will probably be more than adequate.


Mark.
__________________
Visit My Custom Painting Site ....
Roach Custom Painting
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




Model Railroad Bookstore

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
PHP_EOL