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    G'day all....My state is the smallest but second oldest in Australia .. In the 1990s the State Government sold off the rail services to a private company who ran it down so bad it was basically unusable..In the early 2000's the Labor State Government bought it back. It was literally a basket case.In the late 2000's the Federal Labor Government came on board to help out....This little video will show you it is possible to salvage a wreck from obscurity...This vid was shot 2-3 years ago and since then Tasrail has plans to re open closed lines and is gaining back more and more market share from expensive trucking companies.Here's the link ..Go rail Cheers Rod..
    Last edited by rodney mcgiveron; 05-16-2015 at 06:59 PM.
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    Nice to see rail transport win out over trucks! What is the gauge of the track? Are all railroads the same gauge or do they vary by location?
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    G'day Bob....Thanks for your interest...Our population is a little over half a million in a state about the same size as West Virginia...In all our states the main rail freight services are GBE's Government Business Enterprises...There are some privately owned services or closed use services such as BHP Billiton , Rio Tinto , Pilbara Rail and Hammersley etc for mining haulage etc...seems to work okay but no competition like in the US...All now are standard gauge 4' 8.5"..as in the USA (not always the case though)...which is a story in itself..but Tasmania (here) as an island has no links with the mainland so we've almost always been narrow gauge 3' 6"...as you'd see all through the state.. The brand new locos are US built (none in that video though )..seventeen of them bought so far and are basically EMD ones..called PL22...replacing older English Electric , Alco ,EMD and a bit of GE stuff..although some ex Queensland Rail locos are still running too...Due to the bad condition of the trackage until fairly recently there are only plans to do heavy freight but at some stage there was talk of limited passenger stuff but somehow I think that'a a long,long way off...Tassie is a very hilly place so extra motive power for the tonnage is often seen on videos...The more train traffic the better I say...Trucking companies not happy TasRail on the way back..Too bad boys...Cheers Rod..
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    Rodney, I'm somewhat familiar with BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto as I used to work for Komatsu Mining Systems and we sold a lot of huge mining trucks to them back in the 90's. Oz is tops on the list of places my wife and I would like to visit but that would probably require winning the lottery!
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    Interesting video. I'm always glad to see the return of rail in an area that it has be gone from. Now is TasRail government owned, or are they just providing the money? I really couldn't determine that from the vid, but I would guess that it's yes on both counts.

    It does seemingly remind you of Conrail, just as it was formed. Poor equipment, lots of deferred maintenance, and worst of all poor service to the customers. By Conrail's end, while not making money hand over fist, it had a good bottom line, (it was in the black). Service had improved immensely, most, if not all of the deferred maintenance had been corrected, new equipment was improving on-time performance, with lots fewer breakdowns. It turned into a modern well run RR, that was built on the remains of all those bankrupt RRs that formed it.

    I wonder what would have happened if the Penn/NYC merger never happened, and none of the separate RR's that eventually formed Conrail had never had to declare bankruptcy...
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    G'day CJ and Iron Horseman ....Yes TasRail is again solely owned by the state Government again..Pacific National was the buyer when the then State Government were cash strapped and sold off public assets such as TasRail to private sector..It failed miserably..In the late 1990's because of masses of breakdowns , derailments , unreliabllity in delivery Tasrail went to the wall and the State Government bought it back for a pittance...They hired a chap called Damien White as CEO and over the past decade or so he and his team have done an amazing job with limited State funding but it took the Federal Government to kick in 220 million dollars for stage 1 of the re development of the below the rails infrastructure , replacing 35 old locomotives , many 40 plus years old with 17 new American built EMDs as well as some newer Australian built ones , new rolling stock from different places and the new southern rail hub near the capital , Hobart...The proof is in the pudding...future back from the brink...It's awesome to see more rail action again..so money does talk.Here's a couple of the 'newer' old locomotives that the American EMDs are replacing they are QN's from Queensland but some of them will be retained for a while i think.. ..Cheers Rod...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cjcrescent View Post
    It does seemingly remind you of Conrail, just as it was formed. Poor equipment, lots of deferred maintenance, and worst of all poor service to the customers. By Conrail's end, while not making money hand over fist, it had a good bottom line, (it was in the black). Service had improved immensely, most, if not all of the deferred maintenance had been corrected, new equipment was improving on-time performance, with lots fewer breakdowns. It turned into a modern well run RR, that was built on the remains of all those bankrupt RRs that formed it.
    I think you will find the turn around occurred staring in 1980. That was the same time all the railroads in the USA turned around because of the Staggers Act. I'm pretty certain the government's experience with Conrail was influential with the passing of that bill. So in one way of looking at it, had Conrail not been failing, the entire rail industry in the US might have failed.

    I wonder what would have happened if the Penn/NYC merger never happened, and none of the separate RR's that eventually formed Conrail had never had to declare bankruptcy...
    Move the Staggers act up 20 years and that might have been a reality. All the mega mergers would have started happening much sooner, but the Milwalkee and several others might have been saved also.
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    G'day Iron Horseman..and all ....I've read a bit here and there about Conrail and i also saw a video from Louis about the Penn Central demise in the 1970s that was the filip for a lot of changes..really interesting and depressing that rail suffered so badly for that..but Conrail seemed to be a genuinely good outcome at least for a time...TasRail HAD TO CHANGE after the privatisation stuff up..or no rail at all...Just found this.. It features a lot of our Fingal Valley 'local' as it is , with our coal train...and a bit of a look of the new stuff here and there...The coal wagons were sourced from China and that went down like a 'lead balloon' as they say initially...Railton Goliath Cement are our main customer...Private or Government owned , still good to see trains running more and more..Cheers Rod
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodney mcgiveron View Post
    .The coal wagons were sourced from China and that went down like a 'lead balloon' as they say initially...
    What was the issue with them?

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    G'day Iron Horseman....It was a bit of a topic for sure..watch this local current affairs story on it, Better than I can explain.
    I can see both sides.....Cheers Rod...
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