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    Jim - Good luck with the Open House today. I'm sure you're going to inspire all that walk through. Sorry I won't be able to get down there to meet you and see your work first-hand.
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    Thanks fellows. A new layout. I'm afraid my time and energy for another one is pretty much gone. I'm slipping over to the "A layout is never finished" crowd. I always thought that was bunkum because folks couldn't or wouldn't finished and this became the 'catch all' excuse. Looking better to me these days! I went up in scales because of arthritis. I'm done at HO.

    By the way, joed2323, I hope you realize that this layout your enjoying is HO? He brings up a good point however. Many thought my Z efforts were among the best. My N layout was top notch. Jury is still deliberating on my overall HO skills. What I've found on my journey to, "making it look as real as I can," is that more 'realistic' results can be achieved in the larger scales. I won't go to O scale to give that a try. I like what I've accomplished in HO and can live with it.

    I am giving consideration to making a return loop near the waterfront scene however. I will have to get rid of my work desk and lose one of my three sliding mirror doors on my big wall closet to make this work. I will have to move or eliminate the waterfront scene to make it work as well. Tough choice. How will I get into my closet behind a backdrop???

    Got to go. Open house in a bit. Rybcon, no worries. You are always welcome anytime. Jim

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    The open house was quite a success. Even one of my fellow senior softball players showed up. Neither of us knew about the others model railroading. Like many San Diegans he has a large garden layout. The NMRA guys left a membership form. lol I'll think about it, but I'm not much on 'organizations.' I don't mind teaching a seminar or something, but it is probably not me. About 25 folks showed up. Jim

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    thats great jim glad you had a good turn out and some fun
    GARY WISE

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    Gary, Thanks. A good time was had by all. Even I enjoyed it. One fellow helped plan the next addition to the PM&T. I figured I would ask others their thoughts and one old guy showed me the path. After I get this Z layout out of the way I'm doing for a local, then reconstruction will start.

    I will have to move the ore tipple and dock scene or get rid of it. He showed me where to put it and it looks like it will work so it stays. I want a loop on the layout instead of the back and forth. I got a BMann 4-4-0 with Sound and it has nowhere to go. I've got a new plan on the left side of the layout that will allow me to use it. Plus, a bit more layout featuring more pinnacles and rock formations. Should be fun. Jim

    Next up: Photography

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    jim, yes somehow i misread and thought this was a z scale layout, i was wondering to myself how does this guy get this to look so nice and big in z scale... haha my fault. Good to see this is ho scale since this is what i like as well...

    Good idea with the loop idea, i have two little kids and there would be no way i could make my layout point to point and have them interested without not being able to run the train around the layout, but for others point to point isnt a issue.

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    jim i lke the idea of a loop i like to watch trains run while doin other things on the layout. the way i have mine is i can run 3 to 4 trains on loops as well as all the way around the entire layout. i have all single track main with passing sideings or can do point to point as well as some switching. not much into operations but do aliitle. could do more operating if i feel like it
    GARY WISE

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    Gary, You're right. I think the way I have the layout a simple loop would work. I'm excited to build some more scenery! Lots of crags and pinnacles on the new section. I though about a folded loop but my mind is wanting tracks nearer to the fjord. If I folded it then I would have a nicer cliff scene, but not the look I think I want. We'll see. Got to get this Z layout out of the way first. Jim

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    Some thoughts on photography.

    Finally have some time so as promised let's look at photography. First, I am not a professional photographer and my views are simply that-my views. As in any hobby there are many ways of doing something. Generally they are all correct. Remember these are my thoughts, not necessarily yours or the next guys. Not looking for arguments here.

    Let's look at this photo again:



    Most will say that it is pretty good. What makes this photo different from yours, or some of mine, or someone elses? A satisfactory photo should represent what the photographer is trying to get across. In this scene a small camp, scenery, track, bridge, and train. I tried to convey that this scene in obviously not in the Midwest or the Southwest. It is in deep woods, in a climate that gets plenty of moisture, and where the sun does hit, plenty of undergrowth. The track is at the bottom of the photo leading in from the right. Too many times we viewers see side on shots that, while they do show the photographers favorite boxcar, the rest of the photo is simply there and seldom tells us anything.

    I like to shoot photos that make the observer not only appreciate the scene, but maybe learn something and even use their imagination a bit.
    By definition that boxcar photo does tell us something the photographer wanted us to see and that's all good. On the other hand I build my layouts with only one thing in mind and that is photography.

    Weird? Maybe. Remember this great hobby will accommodate many different likes and agendas of its participants. Sadly, I have almost no other reason to be in model railroading than photography. I model to make scenery as logically "real" as I can. To prove to myself that I can do it, I take photos. I don't care about 'operations' so not many yards on my layouts. I'm content to let trains run around a folded loop running through scenery and take photos.

    Back to this photo. Notice again that the train is going away from us. Way too often modelers show us the engine and we seldom see what the layout is really about. I think we can see this is a mining layout. The loco? Who cares? Heisler, Shay or Climax probably, but this photo is showing the whole idea of a small camp, the wilderness and the reason for the photo in the first place, mining.

    There are many techniques for taking a good photo, even one of that side on boxcar. My best advice is to quit taking photos from the middle of your layout room with the camera in your hand. We've all seen those photos and seldom does the photographer get really honest feedback simply because we, the viewer, can't really "see" anything.

    Here's how to take a photo. Always use a tripod! Always use a camera with a timer! Never use a flash! Actually, this isn't my way, it is they way we've all been told how to take a photo for years and years. It is often not done this way.

    So things to remember. Photo composition ie. does your photo make the viewer think, even happy? A good photo should be in natural light with maybe only a table lamp or an extra light source to show off some color. If you are in a room with no natural light then you will need light bulbs in the blue spectrum and maybe only one in the red spectrum. You can find these at your bulb stores or at big home centers.

    While I don't use Photoshop I don't have a problem with those that have to. Sometimes because we may not have natural light some 'enhancements' must, and I think, should be made. I have something called Photo Impact Pro. It is as least 9 years old now and it allows me only the basic color corrections and cropping. More on that stuff later. I think the program cost about $19 back then and it's around $90 today. So, you can see that mine is pretty primative. I don't think the above photo had any 'enhancements.' Simply light from my tube solar light and my desk lamp. More later. Jim
    Last edited by HOexplorer; 04-19-2012 at 11:16 AM.

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    You know, Jim, you have what I believe they call the right approach to your hobby. I have followed your thread with awe and in your last post above you gave a great explanation as to what the hobby should and can be. Well said, I continue to watch this and other threads, trying to hang onto the old 'there is something for everyone' and 'one man's junk is another ones treasure' school of thought. So many correct ways to approach the hobby and so little time and space for argument. Thank you.

    Johnny
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    See you down the road,

    Johnny

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