Container Port Ideas & Images

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Gary B

The Fox Valley Railroad
#21
I've seen printable containers you could create a wall of as a view block. considering the price of containers it would be a lot cheaper.
 

beiland

Well-Known Member
#22
Flipped Train Station around


I was playing with this 'image' this morning and decided to flip the station end-for-end. Regrettable I had not provided wall sides and windows for the backside of my mock-up. But I believe I like it this orientation better












I also moved my SF engine servicing building forward so the tracks go thru the building,.... and out the back









view block of some sort on left side of that station,...tall enough to hide a dbl-stack and autocar




Perhaps a display piece outside that terminal for the passenger's memories,...an old time steam engine mixed into a 'park scene'.
 

tootnkumin

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#24
I think the clue for that additional door is in those 2 bottom pictures. A roof echoing the one on the other side, but very short, so the opening can remain in the same wall, just thicker inwards. The arch highlite in the top pic would enhance it too.
 

beiland

Well-Known Member
#25
Back to my container port subject that is the title of this subject thread.

Hidden Track Influence

One of the initial and very important influences on the development of my container port scene is, 'how do I incorporate that hidden track I wished to utilize to 'hide' some of the trains from having to pass in front of the LA Santa Fe station and the container port scene,....trains such as coal trains, tank car trains, etc'. Just certain types that I would prefer ran UNSEEN thru the west coast container port area. I spoke about some of that over HERE.

Now I have done some more experimenting that I will present here.

I started out with this idea,...


Please realize that I don't intend to have any 'top' over that track, just a view block of stiff paper or very thin foam board.
Since this will primarily be behind stacks of containers in my container yard scene, perhaps the containers themselves (movable) could provide much of that viewblock?​



Rather quickly I began to think I would need a top on that tunnel over the track so I could stack a few containers on top of the tunnel. Probably I can make this stack of containers and tunnel structure all as one UNIT that could be lifted off to access the hidden track.

So what about the height required of the tunnel? Here you can see that I need a height of at least 3 1/4” to get those very tall auto-max cars under.


Two things emerged.
1) My tunnel could/should be at least 2 containers wide,...so 2 3/8” which is greater than the 2” wide tunnel I was originally contemplating,...great.
2) Depending on the height(s) of the tracks underneath there might be some variation in the height of the top of the tunnel. At any rate it appears that the top of my tunnel is/was going to be such that it intersected the stack in an uneven manner,..about half way up the height of a std container. What to do about this?







My next thoughts turned to the fact that the concrete pads of the container port would need to be high enough to be even with the tops of the rails in the container loading area. So here are 3 of those mock-ups, with the tunnel track mounted down at plywood surface height as well.

...the green box car is an overheight box car I stuck in there to see if I might just make my hidden track tunnel clearance a bit shorter? (Turns out I have firmly decided that this tunnel MUST be full height to accept all of double height container cars, dbl-auto racks, etc)


Next I cut out a paper template to represent the tunnel size (with and height),..its at the end of that green box car








So that tunnel over the hidden tracks is going to have to be painted on its outer-side with some image of stacked containers,..with the upper one just a partial view.

But how about this?,..... bring the tunnel side all the way up to this next 'even container height' (height of 3 containers), put a top on it, and stack another container on the top of that so the whole stack against the back wall appears to be 4 containers high??
 

tootnkumin

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#27
But how about this?,..... bring the tunnel side all the way up to this next 'even container height' (height of 3 containers), put a top on it, and stack another container on the top of that so the whole stack against the back wall appears to be 4 containers high??
I think you have a solution.
 

beiland

Well-Known Member
#28
I like the looks of this,...​
I have 4 tracks on my intermodal scene with 2 Mi-Jacks​
Neal M​

I had some lights added to them as well...​

I do realize the Mi-jacks don't normally straddle 2 tracks, but it looks real acceptable to me. I'm going to do some experimenting with the track arrangement as to whether to have 2 tracks side-by-side, or perhaps to either side of a central truck delivery roadway.
 

beiland

Well-Known Member
#29
my 2 tracks vs that 4 track yard

I don't have the shelf depth to have 4 tracks in my container yard, rather I will have to settle for 2. I can have 2 or 3 of those cranes down the length,...probable just 2 as it is a rather short length. Now lets see about the spacing of those tracks under the crane(s).










I'm partial to the tracks being located to either side of the central roadway? It appears a little less congested that way??
 

beiland

Well-Known Member
#30
Now I need to take a look at the end view and see how this dimensions out across the width (depth) of that upper deck,...total available 18”.






the 'tunnel' over on the right hand side is made to be 3 containers high in this view









The foam board that will represent the concrete pad in this container area has not been cut out for those tracks yet. And the top of the tunnel will be a thicker piece of PVC foamboard, particularly as I have an abundance of height clearance in the tunnel now.












That track to the outside of the crane will be a 'thru siding' that can hold either a passenger train waiting at the station, or a container train being assembled up from those shorter segments being loaded up under the crane(s).
 

Sirfoldalot

Plucked Tailfeathers
Staff member
#31
I am wondering how the containers stacked three, or four, high managed to get there?
Did I miss something? There must be another taller crane somewhere in the picture?

I like your thought process and the "roadway" being down the center.
 
#32
I am wondering how the containers stacked three, or four, high managed to get there?
Did I miss something? There must be another taller crane somewhere in the picture?

I like your thought process and the "roadway" being down the center.
Good point... I think another container siding (elevated) complete with cranes are called for...
 
#33
Almost 20 years ago Model Railroader ran a series of articles on building a shelf Port of Los Angeles layout. It was well designed and as I recall not very large to the point of overwhelming. The Golden Gate MRR Club in San Francisco has a scratched built Los Angeles Station also from plans from Model Railroader from the 1960s. I recall it is quite large. The model is standing up to the test of time.
 

beiland

Well-Known Member
#34



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