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The Tariff War with China certainly will not be good for this hobby! However, i wonder if Atlas and some of the older manufacturers will start-up production here in the United States, Again?
I really don't think the price of goods will double, but on the other hand, buying products that were developed by one person at their expense but produced by China by copywrite theft just isn't right.You guys willing to pay double? I remember posting some pics of a Wally RPO Baggage that listed of like $85 and I got several comments about how that was too expensive. The car would cost a lot more if it were made here. Costs here would be high, and most of the manufacturing facilities we used to have aren't there any more. If this tarriff nonsense goes the way I think it will, how much your trains stuff costs you will be the least of your worries!
I agree that theft of IP needs to be addressed, but tariffs aren't going to do that. They'll just slap them on us in a "tit for tat" move and both our imports and exports will shrink. As for paying a fair price for the things we want? Well, that's what I call a "Multi beer discussion". The fact is, as a country we all talk about American jobs and how important they are, but our actions say we don't want to give up our cheap Chinese crap. Go check out any Wal Mart. Fact is that cheap Chinese crap has offset stagnant wages to quite an extent, and if it goes away lots of folks just making ends meet are going to find themselves in a pickle, not to mention the market share we will lose to other producers around the world.I really don't think the price of goods will double, but on the other hand, buying products that were developed by one person at their expense but produced by China by copywrite theft just isn't right.
I think the real question is: are we willing to pay a fair price for the things we want?
You might want to check your math Greg. With a 25% tariff a $200 loco will now be $250, plus any added costs of compliance with any new regulations or paperwork. My point was that to move production here you’ll have higher labor costs, plant setup, (those long gone production facilities we both mentioned) and so forth. All of those costs will get rolled into the sell price of any product made here. The cost may not double but the increase will be significant. “Tarriffs will only cost US consumers more and not address the issues at hand”. Amen!
In the early 1990's I wanted to buy American and we needed a new vehicle for my wife so we decided on a Dodge Intrepid believing it was American made. In the glove box I found papers that it was manufactured and assembled in Canada with essential all Canada parts. Now ahead to 2014 and my new Chevrolet Silverado pick up truck has many parts produced in Mexico.
Yeah, but then you added the 8.75 to the $200 . Chinese calculation LOL!Espeefan: I used the production cost of $35.00 for a Chinese product with a 25% tariff, not the final cost of the product. But...there was an error in the calculation of the tariff at $8.50 which should of been $8.75.
Have to throw away that darn Chinese calculator!!!
Greg
are you sure? I’m not sure how this will work. Maybe we say it will be less than $50 but more than $8.75No, because the full retail price of $200 includes shipping and other retailer level markups *after* the item has been imported. The import tariff will be borne on the wholesale cost to the manufacturer/distributor (*before* those markups) not the consumer's retail price. So it won't be on the $200.