4-4-0 Scale data needed/detailing/scratchbuilding

[ozzietx]

I am need of some help.

I plan on doing some HO modelling of 1800 ish era.
I am looking for scale data, and photos of some 4-4-0
locomotives. I also would like to educate myself more on locomotives of that era.
I am really interested in wood burning engines.
I really like the ornateness (if that is a word) of the wood fired engines like
the General.
I plan on doing quite a bit of detailing, and need good references.
Can anyone direct me to some online references.
I would prefer not to have to spend hundreds of dollars on books.
If there is a book or two I might purchase that book.

Also, if anyone has any directions for scale detailing products that would also
help.

Thanks in advance.

Oz

 

[UP2CSX]

There's a whole bunch of information on the Pennsy's development of the 4-4-0 at http://prr.railfan.net/documents/MotivePowerDevelopment/p20.html. Page through to see the different types of locomotives. There's a general overview of the 4-4-0 type at http://www.trains.com/ctr/default.aspx?c=a&id=114. There are some nice detail pictures at http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoList.aspx?mid=1058.

As far as model details, Cal Scale has, by far, the most HO steam detail parts available. They are available at Walthers and many online train shops.

 

[Railphotog]

Might be worth while to do a Google Images search on "steam engines 4-4-0" and variations on this.

 

[MRLdave]

This link has a lot of good steam engine photos...unfortunately you have to browse a bit to find what you want. Do a caption search and type in 4-4-0. I got 280 hits. Most are NP.

http://muse.museum.montana.edu/rvndb/

 

[GWT&P]

Oz,
This website is just dedicated to the Texas & Pacific Railway, but it has some good pictures of T&P Loco's, including 4-4-0's.
http://www.texaspacificrailway.org/
Go to the Steam Roster page.
Here's an example.

 

[ozzietx]

Thanks people.

Those help a lot.

It looks like I may be using an old Mantua General, and bashing it.

I plan on trying to re-motor it with the motor in the engine rather than in the tender. Looks tough to do, but i'll give it a shot.

Any drawings would be helpful.

Thanks again for the help.

 

[jbaakko]

4-4-0's have the most variations ever. You could build one blind (no measurements) and match a prototype that existed at some random time.

 

[jbaakko]

Oh, and if you're looking at re-motoring, check out the motors available here, they have some mighty tiny ones!
http://www.hollywoodfoundry.com/

 

[ozzietx]

Thanks for the info.

Maybe it's just the anal (can I say that) scale modeler in me.

I like to have a prototype to model from.

I do see that there seem to be many models to choose from.
I don't think I have seen the same model twice in my searches.

Perhaps I should just lighten up a little. Afterall, I am not going out
to model the exact landscape rock for rock.

 

[jbaakko]

Nah, being that way is fine. I'm constantly trying to correct stuff in my models.