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abcraghead
08-29-2004, 04:03 AM
Here's the biggun. What are you modeling, and why?
For me, I have a remnant of a previous layout, but no genuine operational one right now. However, my focus for my car and locomotive fleet is split between two eras in the same general region.
One is the Oregon Electric, a subsidiary of the Spokane, Portland & Seattle Railway, during the late 1960's. This lets me run the most modern power and cars the SP&S ever had, right before the BN merger. Why? I grew up next to the OE, albeit the BN era OE, and then found out about the scrappy "Northwest's Own Railway" that used to operate over it, and fell in love.
The second is the Portland & Western / Willamette & Pacific of modern times. Both are GWI owned shortlines in handsome orange and black, and their operations are fun to watch. They operate over the OE, as well as ex-SP track in the same areas. I find that modeling something I've actually seen is a lot easier, and it's also a lot easier to get attached to it as well.
So... what are you doing, and why?
JeffShultz
08-29-2004, 05:21 AM
Alexander,
For many of the same reasons, I'm modeling the Willamette & Pacific (the less Portland in my life, the better) in pretty much the current era. I've got something that resembles the Labish Interchange/Bush "Yard"/Cascade Warehouse area on the OE in 2x8+a little area. HO of course.
It helps that it's probably less than 5 miles from home so I've been able to spend quite a bit of time there photographing it.
Keith 55
08-29-2004, 12:04 PM
Because I was a six year old railfan on the Sunset Route just east of San Antonio, in front of Randolph AFB, I am now an SP mid-'60s modeler.
That explains the rollingstock, but the route I'm building is based on a fictional short-cut across the southern part of the Texas Hill Country, which has always been a train-free part of the world.
Greg Elems
08-29-2004, 08:56 PM
While I grew up watching the SP in Central California, I always liked the WP. Those silver and orange F units on the Zephyr were cool. In 1979 I went to work on the WP so that set my modeling in cement. WP up till the UP merger and disappearance of the caboose. For my layout, I am modeling a fictitious branch line in the Sierra Nevada foothills. WP power and a mix of lumber and grain along with other agriculture related commodities.
Greg
modelbob
08-30-2004, 01:05 AM
I'm not modeling anything... (::gasp!:) :)
I've got a double track HO layout in the garage that will have some fairly generic scenery, if it ever gets that far, on which I run trains from all areas and lines. It's way too far gone mixed up to even try to come up with a theme to tie it all together so I don't try.
The core of the layout is an old 30" x 8' HO module, which now has connections to an oval of track providing continuous running and connecting it to the future yard site. Due to space concerns and the need/desire to use much of the space in that half of our two car garage for other stuff like storage the layout plan bears a striking resemblance to the Indianapolis 500 race track, just a big oval.
Plans are for a storage yard on the north side, city and industrial areas on the west side, mountains and/or a harbor on the south/center section, and possibly a logging line on the east side extending above my workbench.
I'm interested more in the trains than the railroad, and over the years purchased stuff that interested me. Since two of my main interstest are the Pennsy in steam years and west coast logging, and a third is current PNW regional railroads, I've yet to come up with a reasonable way to have a 3 truck shay wait in the siding as a the GG1 passes my Sounder train and maintain any sense of authenticity.
My only hope is to get the storage yard done, make the scenery generic as to location and date, and then run trains that match together, say PRR stuff one day and then BNSF stack trains and Sounder the next.
leghome
08-30-2004, 02:03 AM
Had the old Lionel set as a kid and then forgot about trains until 15 yrs ago. My logo for my CEE Line says it all to me. "The CEE Line serving the length of Indiana from Chicago to Evansville through Emporia." Teh Cee owns very little trackage so the main cost is equipment upkeep.
ak-milw
08-30-2004, 02:19 AM
I'm basicly modeling the Milwaukee Road in Wisconsin, between Portage and Tunnel city. The time will be the 1950's steam to early diesel. I'm another orange and black fan, And seeing that I am living in the center of the two locations I can get first hand knowledge of the area and how it was. The main reason I'm staying in the 50's is at that time there were a lot of different locos and rolling stock! :cool:
mushroom2
08-30-2004, 04:03 AM
Bob, I'm with you. Except you have more track than I do. I belong to a club where you can run anything, anytime. I was experimenting with the camera one night, and this is a typical scene, complete with the ghost of former foamers who got in my shots. :D
abcraghead
08-30-2004, 07:08 AM
I've got a double track HO layout in the garage that will have some fairly generic scenery, if it ever gets that far, on which I run trains from all areas and lines. It's way too far gone mixed up to even try to come up with a theme to tie it all together so I don't try.
In my experience so far, it seems railroaders rarely have scenicked, functioning layouts. One I know who is a TacoRail employee has a rough version fo TacoRail from Tacoma through to Frederickson wye in his garage -- all lumber and no scenery. The Frederickson switcher was a Proto 2k 0-6-0, while the main track hosted a BN GP50 pulled stack train and other BNSF dash two power. Not exactly accurate in that way, but it operated with prototpye styled switch lists which were fun to operate with.
NVTiny
08-31-2004, 05:03 AM
I model the desert shortline that runs in the same area that the Carson & Colorado ran. But I link my Railroad with the Virginia & Truckee, and the CP in Reno. Since I live in the desert, this choice just fit the landscape I live in
http://www.nvtiny.com/images/track200.jpg
I had an old Bachman set when I was a kid. I grew up, and now I'm regressing, but in a more mature manner. After living in Japan for the last 3 or so years, I have become fascinated with the Japanese rail system, and have current plans on starting a layout in the very near future (see N gauge threads). My plan is going to be a rough (very rough) general representation of a major metro area centered around a large station (possibly JR Shinjuku-Eki) in Tokyo. The abundance of Japanese train stuff at prices much cheaper than in the states is also a big factor for my decision. Once I return to the US, I'll have all the time in the world to make a western style layout, but for now, I plan on taking advantage of the resources at hand.
I enjoy pursuing prototypical authenticity in my modeling, though I’m not always going to be accurate. But, I don’t lose sleep over anything that’s not exact. I know there are plenty of folks out there who wonder why anyone would put themselves through the agony of such limitations adding “stress” to a relaxing hobby. I don’t know. I just don’t find it stressful. To me, it’s enjoyable doing the research, building the models to match photos, etc.
Over the years I’ve changed my focus depending on where I was living or railfanning at the time. This ranged from growing up along the MP/MKT joint line north of Fort Worth, Texas to branchline railroading in Georgia to grain movements in North Dakota to the fictional railroad I developed as a kid centered on Farmington, New Mexico.
At one point I decided I didn’t want to get rid of some of my gear to backdate the roster, so I took an approach I’d read about years ago as my own. And it’s pretty much the way Bob spelled it out. That is, generic scenery, generic time period, but date and road specifc equipment.
My method was pretty random at first, you know, no plan just whatever tickled my fancy. The plan came together when I had to sell off some of my models. At first it was like choosing which child to get rid of. But, as I started prioritizing what really needed to stay and what could go, a scheme started to develop. So, over a few months I decided I’d like to model a few particular trains and get rid of everything that didn’t fit into that scheme.
The other side of this plan was the list of models that needed to be purchased to fit in. Now, I’ve got a shopping list and I’ve stuck to it over three or four years. Occasionally, I add or subtract models from the list, but for the most part it works.
Maybe it seems silly to try to reign it all in like this, but believe me, if I hadn’t done that, my spending would be totally out of control. The money I’ll save in DCC decoders alone will pay for a good portion of the scenery to come. Another benefit is I’m in no hurry to get it done. I have a feeling the journey is more important than the destination in this case, so I’ve slowed down quite a bit.
Anyway, the plan shapes up like this:
Construct a full-scale operating diorama of Bottineau, North Dakota (hopefully, I can bring it to the state fair one day)
Construct a layout replicating the high plains/mountains of southern Colorado in the playroom
Put together the following trains:
Southern Pacific manifest train circa 1973
MP/MKT manifest train circa 1984
Southern/N&W/NS manifest train circa 1984
Southern/N&W/NS unit coal train circa 1984
BN unit grain train circa 1991
NS unit coal train circa 1996
ATSF intermodal train circa 1996
BN unit coal train circa 1996
NS Roadrailer train circa 1996
My own Pine Valley ore train circa 1996
Most of this is done, but the diorama and the layouts remain to be constructed. I’ve probably collected 60-70% of the locomotives and rolling stock necessary to put this together. As my daughters get older, I’ll have a bit more time to get the layout underway. Not much, mind you, and certainly not any more money, but I won’t be babysitting for too much longer.
By the way, I notice quite a few of you folks are modeling the Pacific Northwest. That's one place I've never been, but the photos I've seen sure are beautiful. I can definitely see the allure.
grumpybob
08-31-2004, 05:42 PM
I model a line that has been defunct for nearly 50 years. I have a summer home in the Lakes region of NH. The land that i am on once belonged to the B&M railroad. Ironically, many of the building in the area are old Railroad buildings that we have refurbish and are being used for other purposes now.
We still have the old Water tower, which we continue to maintain for purely historical purposes.
obviously, my railroad is growing and now has connections to Manchester one end and Lincoln NH on the other. i am modeling the late 40's early 50''s so all my equipment is Phase 1 type engines.
We have a newspaper in the area which seems to publish many photo's and stories about the abandoned lines up there and that has helped me better set up a layout that is geared to multiple stop freight business. This keeps the folks who operate on their toes and not every car that they pull, comes back to the yard. They may get moved onto other sidings within the town.
crook
09-01-2004, 02:58 AM
I was born on the eve of Conrail, and the only memories I have of it were as big blue, not the ratty hand me down 1970s Conrail that must have been very interesting to watch. So I model from the late 1970s Conrail, even tho I don't have a layout-yet. My main focus is the Corning, Congo and Monday Creek, a fictional shortline in southeast Ohio coal country that lugs a few coal cars around to a connection with CR's WV Secondary. It will be all switcher power, a la the Montour. The current roster is a pair of S1s.
Isambard
09-01-2004, 08:39 PM
As a kid with a father who worked for the Canadian Pacific Railway, I grew up in Vancouver, BC and Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan when steam was still king. With the benefit of rail passes I frequently travelled through the Rockies. I rode in the cabs of CP's 2800 class Royal Hudsons, and one summer spent in Banff made an unforgettable trip from Banff down to Field, through the spiral tunnels, in a 5400 class Mikado and back up in a 5900 class Selkirk.
As a result my pysche is firmly imprinted with the sights and sounds of steam-powered double or triple headed locomotives in western Canadian mountains, in turn leading to the Grizzly Northern Railway (GNR), a steam era CPR subsidiary running between Rocky Mountain House, Alberta and Kamloops, BC. The history of the GNR was chronicled in the 1 July1938 edition of the Caribou News and Chronicle (Kamloops).
A layout representing the GNR route is still in the future, in the meantime GNR freights, aided by one or two pushers fight the mountain grades on the flat-lands of the local club.
;)
HaggisKennedy
09-02-2004, 04:56 PM
My base RR and Period is the GN, up to 1970. I also have modern stuff, since the big layout will be a relatively generic geographic location, rather than a specific one. OK, it'll be a mountain pass in the Cascades. :D
Currently, though, I have a 12x8 island layout comprising of two separate, unrelated 4x8 trackplans out of Model Railroader. It's basic enough so I can run whatever I own on it, without much worry; it could be anywhere in Granger territory...
:D
Kennedy
SNIP
...I rode in the cabs of CP's 2800 class Royal Hudsons, and one summer spent in Banff made an unforgettable trip from Banff down to Field, through the spiral tunnels, in a 5400 class Mikado and back up in a 5900 class Selkirk...
SNIP
Wow. All you had to do was say that sentence, and there would be no room to wonder what your modeling interests would be!
My railroad is the Grande Valley RR.The GVR is N scale (and 0n30 :D ).The GVR is always now as I am a modern railroad modeler to the core.
My railroad is freelanced but based on ex-Conrail trackage (now owned by NS in reality).The line origonally ran from Elkhart Ind. to Grand Rapids,MI.I have since expanded it to run all the way to Petosky,MI.
The line also branches off in an easterly direction to Port Huron,MI. /Sarnia,Ont. Canada where I meet up and exchange cars with my two Canadian partners.
The GVR has just recently begun using a new paint scheme for it's locos.From September 1992 up until August 2004 all GVR locos were either a solid blue or a blue and yellow (the oldest scheme).The new colours are burgandy and light grey.
The GVR owns three smaller railroads,one in Indiana and two in Michigan.The Indiana railroad is the Elkhart & Western,and the two in Michigan are the Grand Rapids Eastern,and the Muskegon,Coopersville & Marne.
As a side note the Grande Valley has existed since Christmas of 1978. :D
modelbob
09-05-2004, 05:55 AM
Ed,
Who made those Pennsy engines on that layout? They look really nice.
greffern
09-05-2004, 07:15 AM
I'm buying norwegian locomotives from the fifties, sixties and seventies. In addition I'll anything I like. For instance a H0e cypriotic 4-4-0 and a swiss H0 steering car. I also has some geared locomotives like a shay and a heisler.
Here is one of my locos: a cab forward 0-4-0 and some shorties.......
Photo is taken on the club layout at Rognmo station.
Photo used with permission.
mushroom2
09-05-2004, 04:45 PM
Ed,
Who made those Pennsy engines on that layout? They look really nice.
Those are Bachmann Spectrum K4's.
CBCNSfan
09-05-2004, 07:55 PM
What am I Modeling? :confused: Really! :eek: I have no idea :D
Well I guess the CB&CNS locomotives that they started with and even then some of them will be my own idea. ( like the ones they bought for parts ( CN Livery) will be operational on my layout in CB&CNS Livery). The rest will be fictitious based on what might have been if the CB&CNS had existed in the 60's and 70's. Towns and places may be named after existing locations and some may not. For example, the yard at Little Harbour is fictitous, little Harbour is not. Thorburn was a coal mining community and is located on a hill elevated well above Little Harbour. I have no idea of what Thorburn looked like in those days, so that area will also be fictitous. No matter what I decide to call an area, operation will be the same. The mainline is Loop to Loop, inbound and outbound revenue cars will be shunted in the Little Harbour yard. The main basis for the RR Spurs, are the coal mine and the Power Plant Trains, ( Loads out, empties in ) and Freight service on the spur lines with set outs and pick ups along the way. So all in all, the main operating will be on the spur lines and interchanging with the mainline trains
Well now if I haven't made a mess of explaining my mess, then Hopefully that's the way it'll be :D Willis
AmtrakFan
09-14-2004, 10:53 PM
I model any thing BN and Amtrak because I grew up with the BN when I 1st Started liking Trains and Amtrak is due to my Interestit in Passenger Rail I remember when Amtrak ran the CZ/Desert Wind and Pioneer or Eveywhere West all in 1 Train out of Chicago also with the BN I still have memories of the SD40-2 lugging 14K Ton Unit Coal Trains and pulling the Chicago to Seattle Stackers. I miss the BN :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
AmtrakFan
galt904
09-21-2004, 05:48 PM
As my first post, I'll tell you what I'm going to model. I'm going to do Canadian Pacific in SW Ontario, specifically the Galt & St Thomas subs in the Woodstock area, since that's what I've seen and been interested in since moving to the Woodstock area several years ago. I have an upstairs room that's about 14' x 16', doing a ~24" wide shelf all around the room, and I have my wife's full approval and encouragement to boot! Oh, and as for time frame to model, it will be roughly current to CP's practices.
CBCNSfan
09-21-2004, 07:21 PM
Hi galt904, welcome to the forum. Sounds like you have a wonderful and understanding wife. I hope you will keep us posted on your progress with your layout.
a ~24" wide shelf all around the room
Do you plan a duckunder or a gate for entry to the center area?
Cheers Willis
Dick H
09-22-2004, 03:39 PM
...My plan is going to be a rough (very rough) general representation of a major metro area centered around a large station (possibly JR Shinjuku-Eki) in Tokyo...
How about Keikyu? I wish I had the time and space to model the area between Kanazawa Bunko and Kanazawa Hakkei. That's a varied and interesting spot with the Tokyu Car Co. and its dual-gauge trackage, the big Keikyu Shako and the Kanazawa Seaside Line guideway. All sorts of unusual things right in your own back yard.
galt904
09-22-2004, 05:37 PM
Do you plan a duckunder or a gate for entry to the center area?
No duckunders. My wife didn't like them when we went on a model RR tour and she was 8 months pregnant. So I'll have a bridge by the door to the room that can be lifted up (or removed completely) when someone goes to enter the room, since this room will also be the guest room. Now I have to work on my track plan and get some feedback on it. My goal this winter is to build the benchwork and get the Galt sub mainline operational.
texon30
09-23-2004, 01:51 PM
Hi, It all started with the BachMann On30 Shay :).Being a member of the On30Conspiracy [a Yahoo e-mail group].Upon getting my Shay..I posted the question How many ppl in the Dallas/FtWorth area had the Shay,and the Texas OutLaws were born.We model narrow gauge set in Texas.btw Texas has a rich History of Narrow rails.We have no formal rules,no dues,no money...just fun with trains.The modules are memeber owned and built to normal 2'x4' size [length is not set in stone],track 6" from the "front edge",we do not have a background board.Trains run on DC.DCC and radio control.
We have set up[very little notice]at the FtWorth show last year and Plano show .We are planing on doing the same this year.Oh I must say that the modules are built out of 2" of blue foam.No plywood under the foam.Just as lightweight as possable.
Come visit us at ocmodsTexas@yahoogroups
Play with trains and have fun.
Craig
List owner DFW,Texas
CBCNSfan
09-23-2004, 02:43 PM
Hi texon30, and welcome. Sounds like you have a fun group. Do you have any photos of the modules? It's easy to upload here if you have some and we like looking at photos.
Cheers Willis
texon30
09-23-2004, 03:30 PM
Here are two Shays one DCC the other R/C at our mega meet this summer.You can find more photo's in Light Iron Digest this month.
Craig
DFW
GrumpyGerman
09-23-2004, 04:08 PM
I have four layouts:
1) Jura-Simplon-Lines: Märklin H0, Swiss locos and rolling stock, alpine landscape. AC
power on track, DC on catenary. Time period: 1970/80's, size: 12 x 9 ft. Not
worked on or run since about 1999...
2) MainstreetUSA modules: H0 DC, set in the Midwest, time period: 1970/80's
(3 modules leftover from 33ft. long layout)
3) Black Forest & Pacific RR: H0 DC, freelance layout set in the Northwest, with
Milwaukee Road and early BN power, track 60% done, no scenery, no buildings,
along the walls layout in my former dining room. Size: approx. 13 x 8 ft. Not been
worked on for a long time also...
4) Arizona Central: H0 AC and DC on Märklin C track, specially wired for mixed AC/DC
operation, southwestern scenery, serving a copper (or whatever) mine and a
smelter, using a Rivarossi Heisler and a Atlas Alco S-2 with ore jennies and an old
combine. To get the visitors at trainshows all worked up, I can also run Marklin
trains on this little layout, size: 8 x 3 5/8 ft. Time period: Early sixties.
I still work on this layout and I've taken it to a number of trainshows, more to come.
Thats it.
Martin
CBCNSfan
09-23-2004, 05:48 PM
Well texon30 , that wetted the appitite for a few more, I'm kind of taken by the riverboat, is it scratch built? Also do you have some larger photos of the Shays ( I believe?) one of them looks nicely weathered
Cheers Willis
Where in the D/FW area are you guys, Texon30? I'm NE of Fort Worth, but strictly an HO modeler...
Still, I'd love to see what you guys have going on.
texon30
09-23-2004, 10:47 PM
Rich,
As luck would have it Sat.Sep 25th we are having our Monthly meeting.We will be at HobbyTownUSA Dallas[75[central expressway] and Walnut Hill].Who knows the On30 bug might bite you as well. :)
Craig
texon30
09-23-2004, 10:51 PM
Well texon30 , that wetted the appitite for a few more, I'm kind of taken by the riverboat, is it scratch built? Also do you have some larger photos of the Shays ( I believe?) one of them looks nicely weathered
Cheers Willis
The river boat is a kit.........Not at this time but I figure after Sat.I will have.The weathered Shay is the R/C one.As of yet I have not had the heart to weather mine........
Craig
ps I will also get info on the river boat kit......
CBCNSfan
09-23-2004, 11:02 PM
As of yet I have not had the heart to weather mine........ yah I know what you mean, but weathering looks nice, my problem is I'm afraid of making a mess of it. :)
Do you know the make of the riverboat kit?
I'll be looking forward to some more pics.
Cheere from http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/nibbs/novascotiaWHT.gif Willis
SuperbirdVHble
09-24-2004, 03:10 AM
The layout is a joint effort between my dad and I. The railroad we model mostly is the Bessemer & Lake Erie railroad located in Western Pennsylvania, with operations in and around Greenville, PA. However he has a lot PRR and I have some CR stuff too. Why did I pick the B&LE? Very simple, I grew up and still live about 4 houses away from the tracks. Until very recently I had a problem finding any of the B&LE engines I was looking for (SD18s, SD38-2s, SD38ACs, and SD40T-3s), and since I am not a painter I was out of luck. However over the summer I found a guy in the Pittsburgh that happens to re-paints into the B&LE scheme. :D (Currently have B&LE SD38-2 873 awaiting some running mates that will be picked up this November)
The layout itself is about 12x9 and is around the walls. All the scenery, track, ballast, yards, shops, towns, etc is put up and taken down every year and the following year it is set up differently, sometimes based of something real and sometimes not. This year however, I found out I wasnt the only person in senior high that enjoys trains, this person's favorite railroad is also the B&LE so he is helping with this years layout too. We just got the benchwork up last weekend so I will have pics when we get farther along with it.
CBCNSfan
09-24-2004, 11:31 PM
Hi SuperbirdVHble, strange, very strange but I've heard of the Bessemer & Lake Erie railroad, somewhere at sometime and why I have no idea. Must be a lot of work putting it up and taking it down, setting up a bit different is ok. Be looking forward to some photos of it, SOON I hope. :)
Cheers Willis
Russian
08-16-2005, 07:36 PM
Hi SuperbirdVHble, strange, very strange but I've heard of the Bessemer & Lake Erie railroad, somewhere at sometime and why I have no idea. Must be a lot of work putting it up and taking it down, setting up a bit different is ok. Be looking forward to some photos of it, SOON I hope. :)
Cheers Willis
I've caught their unit running through Winnipeg twice on the CN mainline. Made a lot of railfans exited including me, since she's a beauty!
http://www.railroadforums.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=all&si=SD40T-3
(first 3 pictures are mine)
As for I'm modeing, for now its a CN/CP town where the RR's interchange and serve a couple local industries.
With time the town should get a small VIA train as well.
Era? I would say 70's-now, no set era really. Modern rolling stock, but with cabooses and F units on trains.
As for why? I lived in Winnipeg for 8 years and liked the RR scene, so I'm modelling it. Strangely enough, exept for the rolling stock, I'll largely be modeling CN/CP/VIA, some of which was extinct before I was even born!
Stuff like cabooses, blue colored VIA cars, etc.
SDP45
08-17-2005, 02:05 AM
I would like to model the Great Northern Mansfield Branch. I would have the main running along the Columbia River, with the branch taking off back above the main, climbing higher until turning back to follow Douglas Creek for the trip up the imposing Moses Coulee. The draw is the 2.2% grade as the line climbs out of the coulee onto the backside of the plateau behind Badger Mountain. There was a wooden tunnel on the line (since collapsed) that must be modelled, along with lots of trestles as the line kept recrossing the creek. Once level ground was reached, it would be wheatfields for the remainder of the line. Most of the traffic was wheat in 40 foot boxcars, as the track could not handle anything heavier. Near the beginning of the line, there was a large fruit shipper, so reefer traffic was heavy in season. Up until the 50s, there was passenger service, with the last passenger trains actually being mixed trains. Power in GN and early BN days was usually 2 dynamic brake equipped GP9s, though the last train on the branch in 1985 was with GP39-2s. There was another railroad that branched off at a station called Douglas. It was the 5 mile Waterville Railroad. It ran with borrowed rail for its entire existance, as the developer had a close relationship with Jim Hill when the Waterville was built. It ran with a former GN steamer. Its last day was around WWII (I think), when a lot of washouts closed the Waterville.
I had a chance to walk part of the branch, including through the tunnel, back in 1985, after abandonment and before the rail was lifted. I have never seen a train on the branch, but with the dramatic scenery, and the contrasts between wheat fields and Moses Coulee, I was hooked.
Someday...
grande man
08-19-2005, 02:59 AM
Here's the biggun. What are you modeling, and why?
A fictional portion of the D&RGW in 1965. Having lived out west when I was younger (Colorado and Wyoming), I've got a fond memory of the west. I was born in 1965 and the RR was at a high point during that time frame. Life was good. The Grande had a special "look" about it's locomotives and rolling stock that has always drawn me to it. It all adds up to some enjoyable modeling. :)
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