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jbaakko
12-01-2007, 08:47 AM
I'm not sure if you'd call it an awning, but I'm looking for the triangle brace used on framing a small roof eve/awning to the side of a building. I figure there has to be something decorative out there. If anyone knows of something please let me know.

Just to let you in as what its for, I'm replacing the flat roof over the freight half of Suydam Mission Style station, with a Spanish tile roof, matching the main roof.

Rico
12-01-2007, 09:00 PM
Josh,
I have lots of brackets left over from the Walthers Modular kits if that's what you're looking for? I may have some cast metal station style also, I'll have to dig.
I'm in the process of clearing out all the clutter in the train room, got rid of four (big) boxes so far.
Rico

jbaakko
12-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Ahh yes, Rico! Those would be mighty nice. I'll take them, how many you got?

UP2CSX
12-01-2007, 10:05 PM
Josh, on the real Mission style AT&SF stations I've seen, all the roof overhang supports I've seen were rough hewn timbers. I think some stripwood, properly roughed up and stained, would look about right.

jbaakko
12-01-2007, 10:32 PM
Jim, no triangular frame? I never really looked an an overhang that has not full peaked roof over it. The Suydam kit uses a flat roof to the freight room (baggage room now), and a flat roof awning. I think it looks odd, so I'm going to scratch one with the Spanish tile to match the peaked roofs, but I'll leave the flat gravel roof on the baggage room.

UP2CSX
12-02-2007, 05:39 AM
Yes, Josh, the triangular frame was made of rough hewn beams. The overhanging roof was connected to a wood lintel or header attached to the wall of the building. The overhanging roof section (or awning, as it appears) was supported by a network of timber triangular trusses, one for each six feet or so of length and one on each end. I can't find a really decent picture for you but here's one:

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~twp/architecture/mission/mission2.jpg

Look at the timber supports under the flat section of the roof overhang. You can dimly see the triangular timber supports on the sloping roof overhang further down the station building. As I said, I've never seen a Mission style station use anything but timber supports for roof overhangs. If you think about it, there was no iron available when the missions were built so using timbers was in keeping with the style.

jbaakko
12-02-2007, 06:15 AM
Yeah, well I was hoping for timber something, not Iron. However the Modulars ones make up a simple frame that I can add the timber roof with Spanish tiles over.

As far as I remember the Kingman Station ones were added late in its life, I think in the 40's. I've seen that station many times, but could not find a picture.

As far as I'm thinking ahead now, I'll probably frame it out by hand, As I'm going to re-do the whole roof with scale lumber & individual tiles, now that I've heard back from the supplier. I might as well do the whole awning scratch too right?

I like the fact that Kingman station has a brick platform, and red doors, thats the idea I'm going with on mine.

UP2CSX
12-02-2007, 07:02 AM
Josh, yes, that's Kingman station. The sloping part of the platform overhang was added at least earlier than 1940, since I have a postcard from 1940 that shows the sloping roof in place. Indeed, if you are going to do the whole roof with scale lumber and tiles, you might as well do the same with the roof overhangs. The construction is exactly the same except for adding a lintel to the side of the building to support your beams and skip boards for the tile. I think will come out exceptionally well.

That brick platform will be both fun and a challenge to model but that's why I went with brick streets in my downtown section. I like something different and something I remember from my youth. Surprisingly, it's the young people who comment on my brick streets the most because they are amazed streets were ever made of brick. :)

jbaakko
12-02-2007, 02:12 PM
Odd that young people have never seen brick streets! Heck, I'm only 23 and I've driven on brick streets.

So far I've decided upon Walther's brick sheets since the LHS has them, just need to get them next payday, along with the tiles for the roof and the wood.

rlundy90
12-02-2007, 02:34 PM
Hey Josh, who sell those individual roof tiles you mentioned. I haven't seen those. I use individual cedar shingles all the time and would like to take a look at these too.Ron

Rico
12-02-2007, 05:57 PM
Ahh yes, Rico! Those would be mighty nice. I'll take them, how many you got?

How many do you need?
When you use the modular kits you end up buying five or more boxes just to make one building so there's tons of extra parts.
(I must have gotten two dozen kits so far!)
Send me your mailing address and I'll send you a dozen or so?
I'm still cleaning out the train room, can't believe the things I'm finding!
Rico

jbaakko
12-03-2007, 02:11 AM
Hey Josh, who sell those individual roof tiles you mentioned. I haven't seen those. I use individual cedar shingles all the time and would like to take a look at these too.Ron
He only makes the Spanish...
http://www.retro-replicas.com/

How many do you need?
When you use the modular kits you end up buying five or more boxes just to make one building so there's tons of extra parts.
(I must have gotten two dozen kits so far!)
Send me your mailing address and I'll send you a dozen or so?
I'm still cleaning out the train room, can't believe the things I'm finding!
Rico
I think I'll pass, I'm going to re-do the whole roof anyways, so I might as well scratch the frames for the awning too.

rlundy90
12-03-2007, 02:44 AM
Thanks for the link Josh. Those are pretty neat tiles. They should look very realistic on a building.Ron