Honest Opinions Please

[grande man]

This is one of the few weathering jobs I've done that include the use of india ink. The truth shouldn't hurt, so fire away. ;)

http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL615/3680850/7880080/234772763.jpg

[SpaceMouse]

Can you post a larger version of the picture. Looks good from what I can see. I'm looking for dirt on the trucks and on the bay doors. Paint looks about right for fade.

[enjineerbill]

I think it looks great Eric. And you can pass off the red on the lower right by saying it was a fusee, right?

Johnny

[grande man]

Here ya go Chip, Supersized it. ;)
http://www.modelrailroadphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1811

Johnny, A fusee, aaah yeah..., that's right. :D

[SpaceMouse]

Looks just as good up close. What do you think of it? Do you have a prototype you are imitating?

[grande man]

Looks just as good up close. What do you think of it? Do you have a prototype you are imitating?

No, but then I freelance nearly everything... Thanks for lookin it over for me.

[SpaceMouse]

Okay, the reason I asked about the prototype. The dark stains between the ribs look good, but they don't look right. I was wondering if it was me.

[grande man]

Yeah, that's why I posted it. I like the india ink stains but they are a different look than other models I've done that have the darkened areas near the verticle ribs.

[grande man]

For contrast, here's one of my "normal" weathering jobs on a similarly colored hopper.
http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL615/3680850/8376099/210476109.jpg

[CP9302]

I think it looks good. I like the "normal" weathering job a little better as coal dust tends to collect more along the rivet lines like the "normal" weathered hopper. But they both look good.

[grande man]

I think it looks good. I like the "normal" weathering job a little better as coal dust tends to collect more along the rivet lines like the "normal" weathered hopper. But they both look good.

Kinda makes me wonder what it would look like if I did both. :) One thing's for sure, it would be a "dirty" hopper.

[RexHea]

Darn Eric! I like them both, but lean a bit to the first in the thread. The stains on the side look typical of a coal stained car, but wonder if it would help adding a little chalk down the rivets and blend into the the other stain. You could always wash it off if it doesn't work.

EDIT: Well, you thought of it first. Ha!

[sushob]

Kinda makes me wonder what it would look like if I did both. :) One thing's for sure, it would be a "dirty" hopper.

I should snap a pic of the drag of coal hoppers that runs to the local power plant pretty regularly...some of the ugliest things you could imagine :eek: I think they were originally black, then had a few panels painted out in blue, which is now faded almost to white, and have patches to the point where you wonder if they're worth fixing anymore :rolleyes: . Gotta love 'em though...they get the job done...

[Smoke]

I think you need more coal dust on the rivets like your "normal" weathering. Otherwise I like it.

-Smoke

[FunValleyLine]

I can see the difference in the two, however I think they both look good. Could someone show me their technique or a reference?

[B_Kosanda]

Is that a wash of india ink? Usually you see it settle near the seams, but it doesn't look like that what this does.

Bill

[grande man]

Could someone show me their technique or a reference?


Certainly. ;) Check my posts in this thread. http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5129

[grande man]

Is that a wash of india ink? Usually you see it settle near the seams, but it doesn't look like that what this does.

Bill

Well, as usual, there's a right way, wrong way and grande man's way. :D

I typically just brush india ink lightly on one side of the model and then follow that by brushing alcohol to create the streaks when the ink washes away.

[FunValleyLine]

Thanks thats a help. I really think yours came out nice. Is one of those things I have never tried. I guess hasn't been as important as some of my many operational projects. I have some chalks I found at Michaels {local crafts store} for a couple bucks. My LHS said he didnt carry them and I should airbrush but I am not that confident with the airbrush yet.

[lemscate]

I know it's probably not what you were looking for, but I'd like to offer one bit of constructive criticism. Almost no one gets this right: the wheel faces on friction bearing trucks are black, not rust orange/brown. Oil from the bearing leaks onto the wheel face and collects road grime.

http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5856&d=1172983409

http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5857&d=1172983409

Notice the black wheels on the 1xxx cars. Even in iron ore country, where everything is covered by rust and red-brown ore dust, the wheel faces on the friction bearing trucks are black, as well as around the journal box. The 9xxx cars have roller bearing inserts, so they're rusty and dusty. The wheel backs and axles are rusty on both bearing types.

With as rare as friction bearings are these days, and just as rare as color photos from when they were common, it's an easy mistake to make. I never noticed until it was pointed out to me. Thought I'd pass this little tidbit along!

[CSX_road_slug]

Eric,

I'm thinking that the 'dirt' on the panels in your first photo look like the car was lying on its side, and the wash puddled toward the centers of each panel and away from the rivets - sort of a 'negative' of the filth patterns on a typical coal hopper, which would look more like your second pic.

[grande man]

Thanks Ken. I'm thinking along those lines too.

[Steve B]

look's ok to me Eric, maybe a bit more dirt, coaldust and grime on the underside of the body by the hopper door's, but in all honesty it look's fine to me

[grande man]

I know it's probably not what you were looking for, but I'd like to offer one bit of constructive criticism. Almost no one gets this right: the wheel faces on friction bearing trucks are black, not rust orange/brown. Oil from the bearing leaks onto the wheel face and collects road grime.

http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5856&d=1172983409

http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5857&d=1172983409

Notice the black wheels on the 1xxx cars. Even in iron ore country, where everything is covered by rust and red-brown ore dust, the wheel faces on the friction bearing trucks are black, as well as around the journal box. The 9xxx cars have roller bearing inserts, so they're rusty and dusty. The wheel backs and axles are rusty on both bearing types.

With as rare as friction bearings are these days, and just as rare as color photos from when they were common, it's an easy mistake to make. I never noticed until it was pointed out to me. Thought I'd pass this little tidbit along!

Thanks! That's good info.

Do you know how much work you just created for LGM? :D

[jbaakko]

Thanks! That's good info.

Do you know how much work you just created for LGM? :D
Uh oh! Nah, LGM should have fun!

[FR8BurnerWMDcrew]

looks good..can wait to get movin on sum of older stuff..

[lemscate]

Thanks! That's good info.

Do you know how much work you just created for LGM? :D

It's not work, it's having fun!